Good Job snare&racket. I am still amazed at the fact I did not see this until I was 54 years old. By then child grown with children of their own in the cult. My wife and I stand alone in our family not willing to listen to the cult talk anymore. I remember them telling us to live one day at a time in the faith. Will one day turned into one month and then into one year then into a life time of years. Here I am almost 60 years old looking back and all I can do is shake my head and think what was I thinking of. I see it so clearly now but as a born in it truly takes time for many of us to see what is really behind the curtain. Good for you to come up with such a great explaination on how cults keep you in. Stilll Totally ADD
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It is so obviously a lie......now
by snare&racket inonce the spell is broken, one you take a deep fresh breath outisde of the watchtower camp, the amazingly obvious realisation becomes clear.... of course this is a lie, of course this is ridiculous!
you find you have memories of really believing the claims and promises, but it seems like another life, another experience.
it seems so incredibly false once you leave and it is very difficult to belive you even once accepted it!
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One thing about this site that bothers me
by keyser soze inthe constant references to 'window washers' as something derogatory.. i understand the context of it-that most jws are uneducated, and unqualified to do much more.
but sometimes the references seem snobbish, almost mean-spirited.
one poster, on another thread, essentially referred to window washers as 'losers'.
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I remember our teachers would tell us to do good on our test because we did not want to grow up to be ditch diggers. Well those ditch diggers make pretty good money these days. I wish I would have been able to get higher education but the Big A was just a few years away (1975). I wanted to be a meteorologist but of course that would take me away from all those boring meetings and door knocking. So I went into contruction trades. I can now build a house from the ground up blind folded. That and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee. I love any trade that helps or builds things that help people. I feel we are all on the same page when it comes to the Wt. in what they are doing. That is keeping people brain washed from not following their dreams. That is just wrong. Eveyone should have the right to follow their dreams no matter what they choose. Still Totally ADD
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Hey, How About This?
by Frenchy inwould anyone be interested in this: pick a short (means not long!
)sf story that you really like and post it here, say a page (is that too long, simon?
) a day.
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I guess this is the first post. Pre-9/11, Clinton still in office, I was still brain washed in the cult. I was only 46 years old. My, my times have chaged. I thought I would bring this to the front for the new ones to see. Still Totally ADD but didn't know I was back then. LOL
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What I really hate....
by Perversion of a truth inis that i was born into this cult, taught and believed that i was going to live forever, , that i was never going to have to die.
now i am in my mid 30's realizing that this life is all there is and that after that i am dead forever and i am terrified.
i don't want this to be all there is, , i don't want to just live a few years on this beautiful planet and then become non existent forever!
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Soon I will be 60 years old. From around my late 30's until I finally left the Wt. 2011 I suffered with similar anxiety attacks. I must say 99% stop as soon as I was no longer following the cult. With that said I hope you get help soon the heart is nothing to play with. Knowing this is all we have has given me a bigger propose in my life. I for my part in some small way want to leave this earth in a better way than I found it. I work hard at helping others who are beaten down because of life. I try to find joy in the little things and share my knowledge of living a simplier life. Being more active in my community is another big step I am working on. Sitting on the front proch of our house and listening to the birds and insects, watching a sunset, looking up at the stars are just some of the things one could do to reduce anxiety. Getting away from the TV news also helps. I feel for you. Been there done that. But there is hope. You have a long life ahead of you. Make it the life you want not what some cult wants you to do. It took me 54 years to figure this out and I am happy I still have time to make a small diffrence. Take Care and take care of yourself. Still Totally ADD
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The Masters of Spin--Local numbers from your Apostate Account Servant
by suavojr inytd average.
yearly contribution.
$ 2,625.85. donation resolution .
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I understand the congregation will now send a certain amount of money to the Wt. every month. The question is will the elders have the power to enforce getting the money from the pub. who wrote on a slip how much they are willing to give each month? I can see the letter from the Wt. coming in to all congregation in about 6 months telling the elders to start strong arming the pub. for money. LOL Still Totally ADD
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Going To Aruba For My Birthday!
by minimus in.
staying at an all inclusive for my birthday next month.
this will be the third time i use cheap caribbean.com....what a great deal..
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Good for you minimus. Have lots of fun and relax and remember if you get sunburned use ice water with a little cider vinegar in it. Soak a hand cloth in it and put on the burn. After about half hour you will notice a big diffrence. This comes from a person who lived in FL for 40 years. I was born in June also on the 6th. So Happy Birthday to you. Still Totally ADD
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JW Literature... Lots of it... what to burn and what to keep?
by ILoveTTATT ini have lots and lots of watchtower literature... and i don't know what could be useful in the future to have as a reference or as a keeper.
i am definitely keeping the 1993 and 1994 bound volumes of the awake!
(no, we are not false prophets... down in the same page, the generation of 1914 will not pass... also the youths who put god the watchtower first).
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Wasn't the Wt. CD-Rom edited so the crazy stuff was taken out? Are they keeping it in there because no one is really going to read it? Still Totally ADD
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Have you noticed the common practice is to knock indivual's self esteem?
by stuckinarut2 inin another thread, one of our members made a comment that caught my attention.. i have been trying to put my finger on a practice amongst the org and witnesses in general.... as soon as someone does something well, accomplishes something, or excels at something, the atmosphere effectiveley 'kicks them in the gut' to bring them down.. anything that makes a person grow or develop is blatently discouraged and therefore self esteem is squashed!.
the constant message telling a witness to be 'humble' is designed to suck any sense of growth or 'betterment' out of a person..... therefore this leaves the average witness to be a blubbering mess of insecurity and instability completely dependant on the organization...kind of like a 'battered-wife' scenario.... .
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Knocking you down to lower your self esteem is the name of the game in JW cult land. I remember many moons ago when my first son was just 1 year old. The CO was in town that week and the elders arrange for me to work out in field service with this guy. After the first door he asked me why I was not out in service more. I told him God blessed my wife and I with a son and I had to work more to support them. He immediately responded with cutting words that to this day I will never forget. He said to me "God did not bless you with a child you only had sex with your wife and she got pregnant.'" I have hated that guy ever since. To destroy a young mans self esteem like that. What makes me mad is I allowed it to control me. Still Totally ADD
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Just Read Silentlamb.com For the First Time
by HeyThere ini am feeling so emotional right now.
crazy doctrines aside, these child abuse cover-ups are horrendous.
add them together and i feel like there is a churning black hole sucking the souls out of these children.. now, i realize there are boys who were abused as well, but i get this overwhelming feeling that girls/women are simply not valued and/or taken seriously or accused of being liars or demonic or, even worse, viewed as a harlot, whore, or temptress in the majority of situations, no matter the age or the brutality of the rape.
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HeyThere I think it happen just as much to boys as will as girls. The reason I say that is I am a victim and I know of about 4 other men who are victims of sexual abuse while in the cult. My wife and I raised to boys and we was told by community effort on this subject that boy's were just as big a target as was girls. Those who abuse children are very sick people. In my opinion they should all be but to death. But I am prejudice on this subject. I just know to well what happens to a person who is abused as a child. CultBgone you are very brave to talk about this. Remember those who are brave enough to talk about what happen to them are very heroic people. They are survivors and deserve a voice in this matter. Silentlamb even though it is hard to read provides that voice. Thank you for this thread. Still Totally ADD
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How has you life changed since leaving the Witnesses?
by cantleave inother than not wasting hours at meetings, assemblies and doing pointless activity.. for me the biggest difference has been my choice of employment, i could have never undertaken the job i do now when i was dub..
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It's been years now that I don't have to worry about going out in field service on Sat. morning or to any meetings during the week or studying the Wt. or some book that repeats over and over again the big A is just around the corner. Still Totally ADD